US-Einreiseverbot: FakeNews, Uniformiertheit oder schlicht Stimmungsmache?

Heute.de meldet:

„Von dem US-Einreiseverbot für Bürger aus sieben muslimischen Ländern könnten nach einer Schätzung der Bundesregierung über 130.000 Deutsche mit doppelter Staatsangehörigkeit betroffen sein. Das Innenministerium gab dazu am Montag in Berlin Zahlen von 2011 bekannt, aktuellere Daten existierten nicht. Neben dem deutschen Pass besaßen demnach 80.000 Menschen in der Bundesrepublik eine iranische Staatsangehörigkeit, mehr als 30.000 eine irakische, rund 25.000 besitzen einen syrischen Pass. “Die Zahlen können allenfalls als Richtgröße dienen”, so das Ministerium.“

Die ARD verbreitet Panik:

„Wer darf, wer darf nicht in die USA einreisen? Etwa 130.000 deutsche Doppelstaatler könnten vom Einreiseverbot betroffen sein – darunter Politiker, Journalisten, Kulturschaffende. Vor allem trifft das Dekret aber Menschen, die nicht mehr zu ihren Familien können.“

Seltsam nur, dass im nachfolgenden Text darauf hingewiesen wird, dass man im Auswärtigen Amt keine Ahnung zu haben vorgibt, ob Doppelpass-Inhabern, die z.B. die deutsche und die irakische Staatsangehörigkeit haben, die Einreise in die USA verwehrt wird.

Wie anders sich die Welt doch im Vereinigten Königreich darstellt.

Dort wird nicht vermutet, nicht prognostiziert. Dort ist man nicht ahnungslos und entsprechend finden sich auch keine Panikmeldungen in der Presse, denn Britannien hat einen Außenminister, der seine Arbeit macht:

“Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said “all British passport holders remain welcome to travel to the US”.
In an address to the House of Commons, he added: “This executive order will make no difference to any British passport holder, irrespective of their country of birth or whether they hold another passport.
“This is of course a highly controversial policy, which has cause unease and I repeat, this is not an approach that this Government would take.”

Auch im Außenministerium ist man nicht so ahnungslos, wie auf der deutschen Seite der Nordsee:

“The US border clampdown should not affect UK nationals travelling to the US, even if they were born in one of the countries on which restrictions have been placed, officials say.”

Britische Inhaber eines Doppelpasses sind demnach nicht von einem Einreiseverbot in die USA betroffen. Mit einer gegebenen Realität in nüchterner Weise umzugehen, ist natürlich den Herz-Schmerz-Geschichten von den Familien und den Kulturschaffenden, die nicht in die USA dürfen, nicht förderlich. Vermutlich wird deshalb in deutschen Medien lieber spekuliert und Stimmungsmache verbreitet, kann man sich doch als guter Mensch, der vom Schreibtisch aus gegen die Übel der Welt kämpft, inszenieren.

Das ganze Theater macht deutlich, dass man in Deutschland nicht sicher ist, ob Inhaber eines Doppelpasses auch als Deutsche gelten.

Übrigens soll es früher Journalisten gegeben haben, die des Recherchierens mächtig waren und Mitarbeiter im Auswärtigen Amt, die ein Ferngespräch in die USA führen konnten.

Print Friendly

Profile photo of Michael KleinAbout Michael Klein
... concerned with and about science

14 Responses to US-Einreiseverbot: FakeNews, Uniformiertheit oder schlicht Stimmungsmache?

  1. Pingback: [Kritische Wissenschaft] US-Einreiseverbot: FakeNews, Uniformiertheit oder schlicht Stimmungsmache?

  2. reinikeup says:

    Bitte noch einmal nachrecherchieren. Die US Botschaft London gibt an:

    “Beginning January 27, 2017, travelers who have nationality or dual nationality of one of these countries will not be permitted for 90 days to enter the United States or be issued an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa. Those nationals or dual nationals holding valid immigrant or nonimmigrant visas will not be permitted to enter the United States during this period. Visa interviews will generally not be scheduled for nationals of these countries during this period.

    Dual nationals of the United Kingdom and one of these countries are exempt from the Executive Order when travelling on a valid United Kingdom passport and U.S. visa. Additionally, those who have indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom and hold nationality of one of these countries are eligible to apply for U.S. visas.”

    Der genaue Umgang mit diesen Fällen scheint auch den Visabehörden nicht ganz deutlich zu sein.

    • Die von uns zitierten Aussagen hat der britische Außenminister Boris Johnson vor rund einer halben Stunde im britischen Unterhaus getätigt. Wir gehen davon aus, dass seine Informationen richtig sind.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament

      Übrigens steht auch in der Meldung, die Sie zitieren, dass die Executive Order, also das Einreiseverbot für Inhaber zweier Pässe nicht gilt:

      Dual nationals of the United Kingdom and one of these countries are exempt from the Executive Order when travelling on a valid United Kingdom passport and U.S. visa. Additionally, those who have indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom and hold nationality of one of these countries are eligible to apply for U.S. visas.”

      Also bitte genauer lesen!

  3. Werner Runkel says:

    Was, bitte, sind denn “Kulturschaffende” ? Die irgendwelche Säulen mit Rettungswesten drapieren ( wie dieser O-Weia ) oder einen Fettklumpen in die Ecke kleistern ? Wenn solche nicht !reindürfen, ist das mit Sicherheit kein Verlust für die Amis ! Die haben doch selber schon ausreichend Spinner ( Hollywoodstars, “Musikschaffende”, Comic-Plagiatoren ( Warhol ), oder , stellvertretend für diese Zunft : der Popp – Star Madonna ( angeblich kann die sogar ein bischen singen … )

  4. rolandtluk says:

    In Deutschland wird von der Presse gezielt Stimmung gegen Trump gemacht. Teils angestachelt von der Parteipropaganda der ” Democratic Party”, dei als schlechte Verlierer systematisch Trump beschädigen wollen.
    Die Krokodilstränen in Zahlen. Aufnahme von “syrischen Flüchtlingen” unter der Obama-Administration:
    2011 – 29
    2012 – 31
    2013 – 36
    2014 – 105
    2015 – 1682
    2016 – Zielmarke 10.000

  5. Gereon says:

    Lustig und unter den Tisch fallend ist, das Obama 2011 eine ebensolche Einreisesperre aus genau den selbe Gründen verfügte:

    http://alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de/2017/01/obama-verhangte-auch-einreisestopp-2011.html

    (Stellen Sie sich hier eie äusserst angewiderte und ätzend formulierte Reaktion über Heuchelei und Doppelmoral vor, die den Anspruch auf Anstand der Kommentarfuktion sprengen würden)

  6. dentix07 says:

    Zur Beurteilungshilfe ob die Executive Order die Aufregung rechtfertigt, hier der Originaltext:

    “Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States.” Following is the language of that order, as supplied by the White House.
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq., and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States, it is hereby ordered as follows:
    Section 1. Purpose. The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. Perhaps in no instance was that more apparent than the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, when State Department policy prevented consular officers from properly scrutinizing the visa applications of several of the 19 foreign nationals who went on to murder nearly 3,000 Americans. And while the visa-issuance process was reviewed and amended after the September 11 attacks to better detect would-be terrorists from receiving visas, these measures did not stop attacks by foreign nationals who were admitted to the United States.
    Numerous foreign-born individuals have been convicted or implicated in terrorism-related crimes since September 11, 2001, including foreign nationals who entered the United States after receiving visitor, student, or employment visas, or who entered through the United States refugee resettlement program. Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism.
    In order to protect Americans, the United States must ensure that those admitted to this country do not bear hostile attitudes toward it and its founding principles. The United States cannot, and should not, admit those who do not support the Constitution, or those who would place violent ideologies over American law. In addition, the United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (including “honor” killings, other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation.

    Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the United States to protect its citizens from foreign nationals who intend to commit terrorist attacks in the United States; and to prevent the admission of foreign nationals who intend to exploit United States immigration laws for malevolent purposes.
    Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall immediately conduct a review to determine the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat.
    (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall submit to the President a report on the results of the review described in subsection (a) of this section, including the Secretary of Homeland Security’s determination of the information needed for adjudications and a list of countries that do not provide adequate information, within 30 days of the date of this order. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide a copy of the report to the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence.
    (c) To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).
    (d) Immediately upon receipt of the report described in subsection (b) of this section regarding the information needed for adjudications, the Secretary of State shall request all foreign governments that do not supply such information to start providing such information regarding their nationals within 60 days of notification.
    (e) After the 60-day period described in subsection (d) of this section expires, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall submit to the President a list of countries recommended for inclusion on a Presidential proclamation that would prohibit the entry of foreign nationals (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas) from countries that do not provide the information requested pursuant to subsection (d) of this section until compliance occurs.
    (f) At any point after submitting the list described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security may submit to the President the names of any additional countries recommended for similar treatment.
    (g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
    (h) The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall submit to the President a joint report on the progress in implementing this orderwithin 30 days of the date of this order, a second report within 60 daysof the date of this order, a third report within 90 days of the date of this order, and a fourth report within 120 days of the date of this order.
    Sec. 4. Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs. (a) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall implement a program, as part of the adjudication process for immigration benefits, to identify individuals seeking to enter the United States on a fraudulent basis with the intent to cause harm, or who are at risk of causing harm subsequent to their admission. This program will include the development of a uniform screening standard and procedure, such as in-person interviews; a database of identity documents proffered by applicants to ensure that duplicate documents are not used by multiple applicants; amended application forms that include questions aimed at identifying fraudulent answers and malicious intent; a mechanism to ensure that the applicant is who the applicant claims to be; a process to evaluate the applicant’s likelihood of becoming a positively contributing member of society and the applicant’s ability to make contributions to the national interest; and a mechanism to assess whether or not the applicant has the intent to commit criminal or terrorist acts after entering the United States.
    (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of this directive within 60 days of the date of this order, a second report within 100 days of the date of this order, and a third report within 200 days of the date of this order.
    Sec. 5. Realignment of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for Fiscal Year 2017. (a) The Secretary of State shall suspend the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program (USRAP) for 120 days. During the 120-day period, the Secretary of State, in conjunction with the Secretary of Homeland Security and in consultation with the Director of National Intelligence, shall review the USRAP application and adjudication process to determine what additional procedures should be taken to ensure that those approved for refugee admission do not pose a threat to the security and welfare of the United States, and shall implement such additional procedures. Refugee applicants who are already in the USRAP process may be admitted upon the initiation and completion of these revised procedures. Upon the date that is 120 days after the date of this order, the Secretary of State shall resume USRAP admissions only for nationals of countries for which the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of National Intelligence have jointly determined that such additional procedures are adequate to ensure the security and welfare of the United States.
    (b) Upon the resumption of USRAP admissions, the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Secretary of Homeland Security, is further directed to make changes, to the extent permitted by law, to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality. Where necessary and appropriate, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall recommend legislation to the President that would assist with such prioritization.
    (c) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.
    (d) Pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), I hereby proclaim that the entry of more than 50,000 refugees in fiscal year 2017 would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I determine that additional admissions would be in the national interest.
    (e) Notwithstanding the temporary suspension imposed pursuant to subsection (a) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution, when admitting the person would enable the United States to conform its conduct to a preexisting international agreement, or when the person is already in transit and denying admission would cause undue hardship — and it would not pose a risk to the security or welfare of the United States.
    (f) The Secretary of State shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of the directive in subsection (b) of this section regarding prioritization of claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution within 100 days of the date of this order and shall submit a second report within 200 days of the date of this order.
    (g) It is the policy of the executive branch that, to the extent permitted by law and as practicable, State and local jurisdictions be granted a role in the process of determining the placement or settlement in their jurisdictions of aliens eligible to be admitted to the United States as refugees. To that end, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall examine existing law to determine the extent to which, consistent with applicable law, State and local jurisdictions may have greater involvement in the process of determining the placement or resettlement of refugees in their jurisdictions, and shall devise a proposal to lawfully promote such involvement.
    Sec. 6. Rescission of Exercise of Authority Relating to the Terrorism Grounds of Inadmissibility. The Secretaries of State and Homeland Security shall, in consultation with the Attorney General, consider rescinding the exercises of authority in section 212 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182, relating to the terrorism grounds of inadmissibility, as well as any related implementing memoranda.
    Sec. 7. Expedited Completion of the Biometric Entry-Exit Tracking System. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall expedite the completion and implementation of a biometric entry-exit tracking system for all travelers to the United States, as recommended by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States.
    (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the President periodic reports on the progress of the directive contained in subsection (a) of this section. The initial report shall be submitted within 100 days of the date of this order, a second report shall be submitted within 200 days of the date of this order, and a third report shall be submitted within 365 days of the date of this order. Further, the Secretary shall submit a report every 180 days thereafter until the system is fully deployed and operational.
    Sec. 8. Visa Interview Security. (a) The Secretary of State shall immediately suspend the Visa Interview Waiver Program and ensure compliance with section 222 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1222, which requires that all individuals seeking a nonimmigrant visa undergo an in-person interview, subject to specific statutory exceptions.
    (b) To the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations, the Secretary of State shall immediately expand the Consular Fellows Program, including by substantially increasing the number of Fellows, lengthening or making permanent the period of service, and making language training at the Foreign Service Institute available to Fellows for assignment to posts outside of their area of core linguistic ability, to ensure that non-immigrant visa-interview wait times are not unduly affected.
    Sec. 9. Visa Validity Reciprocity. The Secretary of State shall review all nonimmigrant visa reciprocity agreements to ensure that they are, with respect to each visa classification, truly reciprocal insofar as practicable with respect to validity period and fees, as required by sections 221(c) and 281 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1201(c) and 1351, and other treatment. If a country does not treat United States nationals seeking nonimmigrant visas in a reciprocal manner, the Secretary of State shall adjust the visa validity period, fee schedule, or other treatment to match the treatment of United States nationals by the foreign country, to the extent practicable.
    Sec. 10. Transparency and Data Collection. (a) To be more transparent with the American people, and to more effectively implement policies and practices that serve the national interest, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Attorney General, shall, consistent with applicable law and national security, collect and make publicly available within 180 days, and every 180 days thereafter:
    (i) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been charged with terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; convicted of terrorism-related offenses while in the United States; or removed from the United States based on terrorism-related activity, affiliation, or material support to a terrorism-related organization, or any other national security reasons since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later;
    (ii) information regarding the number of foreign nationals in the United States who have been radicalized after entry into the United States and engaged in terrorism-related acts, or who have provided material support to terrorism-related organizations in countries that pose a threat to the United States, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
    (iii) information regarding the number and types of acts of gender-based violence against women, including honor killings, in the United States by foreign nationals, since the date of this order or the last reporting period, whichever is later; and
    (iv) any other information relevant to public safety and security as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Attorney General, including information on the immigration status of foreign nationals charged with major offenses.
    (b) The Secretary of State shall, within one year of the date of this order, provide a report on the estimated long-term costs of the USRAP at the Federal, State, and local levels.
    Sec. 11. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or
    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
    (b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
    (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
    (Quelle: New York Times [Online])

  7. Pingback: Presse verbreitet FAKE NEWS über Einreiseverbote in den USA – Lügenpresse Fake News

  8. Sven Kuchary says:

    Interessant ist, dass deutsche Medien reihenweise berichten, Trump habe “Muslimen” die Einreise verboten. Das ist jedoch nicht der Fall. Die Order heißt “Protecting the Nation From Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States.” Das Wort “Muslim” kommt darin nicht explizit vor. Das einzige explizite genannte Land ist Syrien, die anderen sind Länder mit einem bestimmten Visaverfahren (laut Liste aus einem Obama(!)-Dekret von Dez. 2015 – das habe ich nicht überprüfen können).
    Auch nicht-Muslime aus den betroffenen Ländern dürfen nicht einreisen.
    Die Schlussfolgerung “Protecting from Terrorist Entry” verbiete Muslimen die Einreise, finde ich gewagt. Sie unterstellt einen Zusammenhang, von dem sonst behauptet wird, das er nicht bestünde.

  9. «Additionally, those who have indefinite leave to remain in the United Kingdom and hold nationality of one of these countries are eligible to apply for U.S. visas.»

    Schön für die Briten, weniger schön für die Schweiz:
    «Am Mittwoch hätte Dr. Samira Asgari (30) ihre Stelle in Boston antreten sollen. Sieben Monate lang bereitete die Forscherin der ETH Lausanne die Züglete in die USA vor. Der Flug von Genf nach Deutschland verlief problemlos. Doch in Frankfurt, kurz vor dem Boarding, brach ihre Welt zusammen.

    «Vor dem Gate musste ich noch einmal den Boarding-Pass und meinen Ausweis zeigen», sagt Asgari zu BLICK. «Ein Mann führte mich und meinen Freund aus der Warteschlange und sagte, dass ich das Flugzeug nicht besteigen darf.»
    Quelle

    Carolus Magnus

    • Hosenmatz says:

      Ich nehme stark an, dass das ein eklatantes Fehlverhalten des Mitarbeiters am Check-In-Schalter war, weil dieser nicht wusste, wie das Dekret von Trump anzuwenden ist. Bei dem rumgestammele unserer Führungsriege wundert mich das allerdings auch nicht.

      Zitat aus der Quelle:”Präsident Trump verweigerte der Iranerin die Einreise in die USA.”
      Ich gehe mal davon aus, dass Trump nicht am Frankfurter Flughafen arbeitet.

  10. Ralph says:

    Besten Dank @Michael Klein – Den Originaltext der exec.Order kann unter “whitehouse.gov” finden. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/27/executive-order-protecting-nation-foreign-terrorist-entry-united-states).

  11. Pingback: US-Einreiseverbot: FakeNews, Uniformiertheit oder schlicht Stimmungsmache? – MoshPit's Corner

  12. Günther says:

    Je mehr die Lügenmedien die Gefühlsgeige spielen um so mehr werden die sich entlarven als das was sie sind. Gekaufte Huren der herrschenden Politiker!

error: Content is protected !!
Profile photo of Michael Klein
Holler Box
Skip to toolbar